Tuesday, January 19, 2010

Socratic Poetry?

What did you glean from the poetry discussion? What comments were memorable? Reflections? Criticism? Analysis? Please respond in class on 1-19-10.

30 comments:

brady Sch said...
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brady Sch said...

i don't know about this story it was kinda weird in a way.like, it was very descriptive but different. it is a weird scenario to me.

wildernessexploror121 said...

I thought it was very descriptive and i liked it but i didnt get much from it

abby bockenkamp said...

from this discussion i got that there are several ways to interpret this poem. some people say it was a flashback to when he was fifteen and it was just something that happened, and others said that it was a flashback to when he was fifteen and that the guy on the motor cycle was him self.

Pierce M! said...

Some memorable comments were distributed by Mr. Lillmars when he stated to always trust yourself because you can never know what's going to happen next. I gathered information including the plot and what this poem was about and it was about a guy who was having a flashback on what happened to him when he was 15, hence the title of the poem.

jacksonader said...

I didnt really get much from the poetry. I thought it was pretty odd with the repetition of the last line. I also think the title could of been changed to something different, more attention grabing.

Allie Sutterer said...

i think the poem was mostly about an experience the author had when he was fifteen. the repetition of lines made it clear that maybe he was too young to witness such a thing.

ErikaK said...

In our Socratic discussion I was still unsure of the boy in the beginning did he really want to steal it? Did he really think that it was no ones? Also i still don't know what the theme and attitude of the poem is?

tstarburst said...

the stuff that i understood more after the discussion is what the whole story was about. i don't really think there were any memorable comments because they were all silly comments.

AJ.B said...

Our group wasn't exactly very talkative, so i didn't learn much. They finally resorted to calling on people to answer questioned. Through that I learned that the human race was portrayed as helpful in the poem. I personally would have taken the bike for a few donuts first. So I disagree with that point of view, but not totaly

KymS said...

I gathered on how to think in different ways when talking about poetry. The memorable comments were, "trust yourself" said by michael lillmars. I thought it was a good discussion. However i believe we could have gone into deeper thought.I learned from this discussion.

Randy E said...

I gleaned that this may be a flash back that this person may have experienced when he was fifteen. A memorable quote was to always trust yourself because you never know what is going to happen next.

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BrittanyJ said...

I think that the poem is about a guy helping someone on a motorcycle who crashed possibly. Personally this poem didn't really interest me. I think that maybe if it had some more description in it and words that would draw the reader in that i would like the poem better. In our group discussion someone said that the title should be The Bridge at Seventeenth, because thats where all of it happened. I would have to agree with him because it sounds like a more interesting title than Fifteen to me.

kenziee said...

What I learned was that it has an intense mood, and it was showing what an average stuff can happen when your 15. Why did they say I was 15 after every sentence? One comment was commenting about personification and that was pretty memorable. I learned to look deeper into the meaning and read between the lines because the true message might not be on the surface.

Jason L said...

I did not really glean anything from this poetry discussion. A memorable comment was when someone in the group said that a good title for this poem could be the bridge on seventeenth because that is where a lot of this poem took place. Some of the people in our group did not really seem to be getting into the discussion as well as they should have been, and if they had then our discussion could have been more eventful and memorable. I think it might have been better if we had a leader that went on to new questions every time that we ran out of things to say for the current question. That might have made the discussion move more smoothly and made it more effective.

MichaelL said...

I learned that sometimes you look at poetry one way and in a discussion you have a totally different perspective on it. At first i thought the poem was just about a guy crashing on a motorcycle. Now I think its about a guy who remembers himself crashing on a motorcycle when he was fifteen. He remembers all the details and I realized that poetry is never easy to understand.

anthony t said...

that the poem was about a man that crashed his motorcycle. the most memorable for me is when i repeated something that was already said. more like an imagery poem to me. our group needs to talk more about whats relevant to the conversation.

Tanner W. said...

One of my favorite comments that i herd from our circle was will he ever see him again. Another was the answer to the question what are titles would fit this poem? one of the answers I liked was "Bridge on Seventeenth".

Kacie L said...

In the poem fifteen it is very descriptive and is good at creating an image in your head. "as it lay on its side, ticking over slowly in the high grass". Also it uses the literary term personification, "pulsing gleam".
I think the theme of this poem is that no matter how hard you might want to take something from someone, always be the better person and do a good deed. This poem reminds me of driving and getting your permit because this is the age that you get it. It can relate to the poem because maybe the boy just got his permit and wanted to take the bike and ride away. I found out many meaning there is for this poem through our socratic seminar.

mirandar2013 said...

In the poetry discussion I was able to gather that the poems actually mean something different to all the people in our group. Not everyone thought the same thing about poetry because poetry is very cryptic and should leave you with a lot of questions. Something memorable was my personal infatuation with stealing motorcycles.

meganl said...

What I got from the poem discussion the the poem was, a good/bad memory. It was bad because they guy on the motorcycle fell off his bike and got hurt; but the good part was the he was well enough to get back on the motorcycle . The point was to share his memory.

peterm said...

i thought it wass interesting because people looked at the poem differently and people were kinda cinfused by this poem because it is kinda mysterious in it self

Peyton M. said...

I thought that it was mainly about how the person who was 15, and one of the most interesting things that the writer had experienced in his life. I think that the whole mood of the poem was that he really did remember the moment because in most cares poets write about things they have experienced or have viewed. I think that during the seminar that most kids either tried to participate or they were trying but got off subject which caused this to be hard to reflect off of. At least in our group. I think that in this poem it had more of a story to it compared to most poems and that the author added a lot more implying in this then direct terms, one reason that i enjoy this poem. And since some didn't read through it all the way they didn't see all the words that were descriptive and or very "wordy," which added to this poem.

Matt E. said...

I think that there would be many other titles that could fit the poem fifteen. One other good title could be flashback or bridge on seventeenth. Although it seemed like there was only one character there was actually two. In the fourth paragraph it talks about someone accompanying him.

alexc said...

in the peotry discussion a lot of people said that the main point of the poem was how the narrator had wanted a motorcycle and finally found one by the side of the road when it's owner came and took it away. the poem was about how a kids dream cam e true for a while and then it was ruined.

Alex B said...

Some comments that were memorable were the descriptions of the motorcycle accident. Also we were commenting about how this boy was effected when he was fifteen. Some reflections are to always help someone, they will greatly appreciate it, just like the man in the poem.

Mi Leng said...

well i learn that sometimes when u read it puts a image in your head and that their are a lot of things you can learn from a poem. something that was memorable was when at the end of of the stuff he was saying and then after those he would said i was fifteen. well in the poem he was kinda talking about being on a motorcycle and what it feels like to be on one. Its like he is talking about when he was fifteen and all the things he used to do.

AidanC said...

I thought it was descriptive but i dont completely understand how it personifies anything.

meganl said...

What I got from the poem was what it was, a memory. It a bad one because the guy got hurt, but it was good because he was okay and able to ride away. I think the point of his poem was to share his memory.