After listening to the Psychiatrist Counsels Vets With Odyssey Audio, what are you thinking about the The Odyssey?
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After listening to these audio clips it makes me think that "The Odyssey" has a deeper meaning than just a recap of the Greek mythology. Odysseus' story could be compared to what these soldiers did, it could help them "release" their experience knowing that they aren't the only one to go through setbacks. The soldiers could have felt that only they have been setback or been a burden so this could make people feel accepted or allow them to relax in their own bodies.
The veterans in the Vietnam were kept in similar troops for quite a while and are close to each other. The story means a lot to the veterans because they feel they can relate to it. I think that this book is a very important piece of reading for the veterans who are struggling from PTSD. This also helps them connect to this story realising they aren’t the only ones who go through setbacks and help them come to piece that this isn’t only happening to them.
The modern day soldiers are like the ones from ancient greece because there would be someone hurt and they would think that they aren't good enough and that is what happened back when achilles was hit in the achille. Odysseus is hearing a song and starts crying but doesn't want to show people crying and this is like any person, most of the time a person doesn't want to show weakness.
In Psychiatrist Counsels Vets With Odyssey Audio, made me think that literature can be helpful in many ways. The Author started to read the Odyssey when he was recovering from a stroke, the realism of the book helps vets recover and rethink. When the veterans talk he hears the screams and noises of the losses of people from Ancient Greece. Odysseus was told that if someone comes back from war and a civilian asks why they are weeping and doesn't give the veteran time to answer, they make their own conclusions. Everyone has their own meaning and point of view of war. Their situations are not always understood, that is where Odysseus and war veterans relate.
After listening to the Psychiatrist Counsels Vets With Odyssey Audio, I found a lot of similarities to the Odyssey. They were talking about a man where people look up to him and listen to what he proposes, who reminds me of Odysseus how his crew looks up to him and how they respect him. They audio could also be related to the soldiers because the soldier have obstacles in their life but they find other ways to accomplish what they want which is what Odysseus was doing on his journey with him men.
I think that this recording reflects the timelessness of The Odyssey and how it was not just something that can be read for a sort of entertainment or for a cultural education, but that it has practical value, in this case in a situation where human nature can be studied and seen reflected today the same as it was more than two thousand years ago, and that the human experience does not actually change as much as we think it does.
Some may think, since The Odyssey was written many years ago, it cannot be connected to modern topics. However, this book can help modern soldiers cope with war today. When asking a question, you should listen to the answer rather than giving their own, like in the case with soldiers coming home from war. Texts written many years ago can still connect with people today, with people trying to interpret stories, and helping people cope with wars.
I think how amazing it is how people in the modern day can still look back in this old book that was written a long time ago and they can relate to it. It really shows how the struggle of the post war life is not just a recent thing that has showed up but it has been a struggle for a long time. It really shows how war has never really changed and it has always been the same even with new technology.
The Odyssey relates to Veterans through their hardships. The Odyssey in my opinion would help veterans to recover from PTSD because just like Odysseus had to overcome many trials the veterans relate to the hardships and feel sympathy for Odysseus. Odysseus cry over the stories that he tell and has PTSD from the events that occurred just like some veterans will still feel remorse for what they had experienced.
This audio reminds me of hoe Odysseus has to be a very powerful leader throughout his entire journey. He has to make wise decisions because he has lots of lives in his hands so one bad decision can ruin everything. He also has to make sure nobody goes against each other and that they all stay united as one. Just like a war leader today the main goal is to get everyone home safe and sound even though that doesn't always happen.Another way this relates is by how Odysseus and today's Veterans have lost many friends and people close to them throughout their journey. Women's role is also huge in the Odyssey because today and in the past they were often put under men and in the Odyssey they are completely in power and strong and very very independent.
The Odyssey correlates with counseling and how they need to stick together through the journey of war, just like the men did in Odyssey. it is very important to treat these soldiers with respect and congratulate him, just like the men with Odysseus when he goes home. Jonathan Shay finds an amazing way to relate to soldiers that had gone through pain, and help them through it by quoting philosophy. The stories in the books Homer wrote can help soldiers cope with their issues, as Odysseus is going through the same pain. This helps the veterans relate and cope with their issues. It is a very helpful way to guide people through pain as they can relate to the same pain as Odysseus has gone through.
Many war veterans comeback with high impact of psychological damage. When you can council them with Odyssey stories, you are letting them relate to other stories and feelings that can make them feel like they are a part of something bigger than themselves. The Odyssey does't only tell intriguing stories, it also relates to life stories that war veterans have had. Odysseus is telling his own stories of brutal wars, emotional loss, and scaring events that can help many war veterans express themselves easily. They can let their emotional stress and mental health at ease.
Just like the men of Odysseus in Homer's "Odyssey", the U.S. soldiers must work together in order to succeed, and they need to be listened to. Just like the civilians of America, the nobles of Odysseus's home can't know what he's been through, like the soldiers of the U.S.. Therefore, civilians should to be willing to hear their stories, in order to better understand why soldiers do what they do, supported by the quote, "...Must be willing to listen...They can't know...what they've been through..."(-Psychiatrist Counsels Vets With Odyssey Audio).
The fact that wounded soldiers can relate to Odysseus, is that they have a voice to be heard. Also the fact the struggles that Odysseus has gone thought, and they cant be understood. With physical and invisible wounds, they have all lost a part of themselves at the battle. Odysseus had felt this way when a poet was reading a poem to a coward this poem made him weep. He wept because of the war of Troy and the lose of his men. All soldiers feel the same way because they have lost themselves and they came back different, and cant look at the world the same. The problems of coming home are relating to trying to get back to a normal life, but after what they saw they cant. Some go homeless because there PTSD is so bad they cant live in a normal life. Same with Odysseus he cant go home the same way after the struggles he has been through getting back home.
In the Vietnam War soldiers were kept in the same troops for a long period of time. They keep them together so they know who they can trust. This is similar to Odysseus in his journeys because they can trust who they've been with for a long time. This proves that people gain trust after what they've been though and not how long. Odysseus starts crying during a story and someone asks what's wrong but doesn't give him a chance to respond. That is similar to when our soldiers come back and think they know about the war.
Well after listening to it, the Vietnam veterans made connections with that war. Even though that most people wouldn't even bother with looking within the Trojan War and the story of Odysseus, these veterans shared amazing things that no one else knows about the Vietnam War.
I think that the Odyssey can relate to pretty much everyone because everyone has had some sort of struggle in their lives. It doesn't matter what the struggle is, it could be trying to pass a test or something less like beating your cousin at video games. Whatever your struggle may be, you will eventually face failure. In the Odyssey, Odysseus is faced with many challenges. The one that I think most people could relate to, is when the bag of the wind is opened, and Odysseus is blown back to sea. I can relate to this very closely, it was in 6th grade the night before climbing regional championships. I had been training for the past 3ish months to do my best at this competition. In an effort to not get injured I was hanging out at my friends house, playing football. As I was going out for a long pass I stepped on a curb weird and broke my ankle. My chances of winning or even competing were out the window. I had to start back at square one. All the time and effort put into this competition was gone. Just like Odysseus when he had to fight with cyclopses and countless other beasts just to get were he was, and it all slipped away.
The Odyssey by Homer is a very diverse piece of literature. It is very old, but it is a timeless tale that still has relevance today. A story of adventure, hope, loss, and struggle can still be significant to this day. Anyone can relate to the story of Odysseus to a certain extent because stories of sorrow and success will never go out of fashion. This can bring comfort to people that have had extreme trauma, and that makes the Odyssey a very interesting piece to examine and to apply certain aspects of it to our lives.
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After listening to these audio clips it makes me think that "The Odyssey" has a deeper meaning than just a recap of the Greek mythology. Odysseus' story could be compared to what these soldiers did, it could help them "release" their experience knowing that they aren't the only one to go through setbacks. The soldiers could have felt that only they have been setback or been a burden so this could make people feel accepted or allow them to relax in their own bodies.
The veterans in the Vietnam were kept in similar troops for quite a while and are close to each other. The story means a lot to the veterans because they feel they can relate to it. I think that this book is a very important piece of reading for the veterans who are struggling from PTSD. This also helps them connect to this story realising they aren’t the only ones who go through setbacks and help them come to piece that this isn’t only happening to them.
The modern day soldiers are like the ones from ancient greece because there would be someone hurt and they would think that they aren't good enough and that is what happened back when achilles was hit in the achille. Odysseus is hearing a song and starts crying but doesn't want to show people crying and this is like any person, most of the time a person doesn't want to show weakness.
In Psychiatrist Counsels Vets With Odyssey Audio, made me think that literature can be helpful in many ways. The Author started to read the Odyssey when he was recovering from a stroke, the realism of the book helps vets recover and rethink. When the veterans talk he hears the screams and noises of the losses of people from Ancient Greece. Odysseus was told that if someone comes back from war and a civilian asks why they are weeping and doesn't give the veteran time to answer, they make their own conclusions. Everyone has their own meaning and point of view of war. Their situations are not always understood, that is where Odysseus and war veterans relate.
After listening to the Psychiatrist Counsels Vets With Odyssey Audio, I found a lot of similarities to the Odyssey. They were talking about a man where people look up to him and listen to what he proposes, who reminds me of Odysseus how his crew looks up to him and how they respect him. They audio could also be related to the soldiers because the soldier have obstacles in their life but they find other ways to accomplish what they want which is what Odysseus was doing on his journey with him men.
I think that this recording reflects the timelessness of The Odyssey and how it was not just something that can be read for a sort of entertainment or for a cultural education, but that it has practical value, in this case in a situation where human nature can be studied and seen reflected today the same as it was more than two thousand years ago, and that the human experience does not actually change as much as we think it does.
Some may think, since The Odyssey was written many years ago, it cannot be connected to modern topics. However, this book can help modern soldiers cope with war today. When asking a question, you should listen to the answer rather than giving their own, like in the case with soldiers coming home from war. Texts written many years ago can still connect with people today, with people trying to interpret stories, and helping people cope with wars.
I think how amazing it is how people in the modern day can still look back in this old book that was written a long time ago and they can relate to it. It really shows how the struggle of the post war life is not just a recent thing that has showed up but it has been a struggle for a long time. It really shows how war has never really changed and it has always been the same even with new technology.
The Odyssey relates to Veterans through their hardships. The Odyssey in my opinion would help veterans to recover from PTSD because just like Odysseus had to overcome many trials the veterans relate to the hardships and feel sympathy for Odysseus. Odysseus cry over the stories that he tell and has PTSD from the events that occurred just like some veterans will still feel remorse for what they had experienced.
This audio reminds me of hoe Odysseus has to be a very powerful leader throughout his entire journey. He has to make wise decisions because he has lots of lives in his hands so one bad decision can ruin everything. He also has to make sure nobody goes against each other and that they all stay united as one. Just like a war leader today the main goal is to get everyone home safe and sound even though that doesn't always happen.Another way this relates is by how Odysseus and today's Veterans have lost many friends and people close to them throughout their journey. Women's role is also huge in the Odyssey because today and in the past they were often put under men and in the Odyssey they are completely in power and strong and very very independent.
The Odyssey correlates with counseling and how they need to stick together through the journey of war, just like the men did in Odyssey. it is very important to treat these soldiers with respect and congratulate him, just like the men with Odysseus when he goes home. Jonathan Shay finds an amazing way to relate to soldiers that had gone through pain, and help them through it by quoting philosophy. The stories in the books Homer wrote can help soldiers cope with their issues, as Odysseus is going through the same pain. This helps the veterans relate and cope with their issues. It is a very helpful way to guide people through pain as they can relate to the same pain as Odysseus has gone through.
Many war veterans comeback with high impact of psychological damage. When you can council them with Odyssey stories, you are letting them relate to other stories and feelings that can make them feel like they are a part of something bigger than themselves. The Odyssey does't only tell intriguing stories, it also relates to life stories that war veterans have had. Odysseus is telling his own stories of brutal wars, emotional loss, and scaring events that can help many war veterans express themselves easily. They can let their emotional stress and mental health at ease.
Just like the men of Odysseus in Homer's "Odyssey", the U.S. soldiers must work together in order to succeed, and they need to be listened to. Just like the civilians of America, the nobles of Odysseus's home can't know what he's been through, like the soldiers of the U.S.. Therefore, civilians should to be willing to hear their stories, in order to better understand why soldiers do what they do, supported by the quote, "...Must be willing to listen...They can't know...what they've been through..."(-Psychiatrist Counsels Vets With Odyssey Audio).
The fact that wounded soldiers can relate to Odysseus, is that they have a voice to be heard. Also the fact the struggles that Odysseus has gone thought, and they cant be understood. With physical and invisible wounds, they have all lost a part of themselves at the battle. Odysseus had felt this way when a poet was reading a poem to a coward this poem made him weep. He wept because of the war of Troy and the lose of his men. All soldiers feel the same way because they have lost themselves and they came back different, and cant look at the world the same. The problems of coming home are relating to trying to get back to a normal life, but after what they saw they cant. Some go homeless because there PTSD is so bad they cant live in a normal life. Same with Odysseus he cant go home the same way after the struggles he has been through getting back home.
In the Vietnam War soldiers were kept in the same troops for a long period of time. They keep them together so they know who they can trust. This is similar to Odysseus in his journeys because they can trust who they've been with for a long time. This proves that people gain trust after what they've been though and not how long. Odysseus starts crying during a story and someone asks what's wrong but doesn't give him a chance to respond. That is similar to when our soldiers come back and think they know about the war.
Well after listening to it, the Vietnam veterans made connections with that war. Even though that most people wouldn't even bother with looking within the Trojan War and the story of Odysseus, these veterans shared amazing things that no one else knows about the Vietnam War.
I think that the Odyssey can relate to pretty much everyone because everyone has had some sort of struggle in their lives. It doesn't matter what the struggle is, it could be trying to pass a test or something less like beating your cousin at video games. Whatever your struggle may be, you will eventually face failure. In the Odyssey, Odysseus is faced with many challenges. The one that I think most people could relate to, is when the bag of the wind is opened, and Odysseus is blown back to sea. I can relate to this very closely, it was in 6th grade the night before climbing regional championships. I had been training for the past 3ish months to do my best at this competition. In an effort to not get injured I was hanging out at my friends house, playing football. As I was going out for a long pass I stepped on a curb weird and broke my ankle. My chances of winning or even competing were out the window. I had to start back at square one. All the time and effort put into this competition was gone. Just like Odysseus when he had to fight with cyclopses and countless other beasts just to get were he was, and it all slipped away.
The Odyssey by Homer is a very diverse piece of literature. It is very old, but it is a timeless tale that still has relevance today. A story of adventure, hope, loss, and struggle can still be significant to this day. Anyone can relate to the story of Odysseus to a certain extent because stories of sorrow and success will never go out of fashion. This can bring comfort to people that have had extreme trauma, and that makes the Odyssey a very interesting piece to examine and to apply certain aspects of it to our lives.
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