Friday, December 9, 2016
"The Odyssey" In Vase Art?
In viewing the following black and red figure vase art, Odyssey In Art; Odyssey In Art Part II, what do you notice about the artists' message concerning The Odyssey?
What symbols, manifestations, heroic elements, and other ideas we
discussed can you critique and comment upon. Your response is due during
class today.
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in the art with Odysseus and Kalypso Odyseuss is on the right (Divine) side of the art peice and looking towards the lefst or mortal side of the piece which may symbolise that he his looking back on all of his achivements and all of the people that may be following in his path or glory.
On the pottery I noticed that mortals always seemed to be offering something to the gods. They would provide them with services or goods which pleased the specific god. The gods were always dressed elegantly and looked a lot better off than the mortals. This pottery shows that they held true to the Greeks giving offerings to the gods and always trying to please them. The mortals believed that if they pleased the god they got their blessing in life, so they thought that they would be better off with he gods blessing which is why they were always trying to please them.
The Artist shows Odysseus as being a strong, young man who looks like a warrior who wins all battles. On on of the vases, it depicts Circe and Odysseus, and you can see how he is pushing her and her evil doings away with his hand, showing that he is stronger. On this vase, It also depicts Odysseus holding a sword, representing his strength over Circe.The other vases show Odysseus overcoming obstacles, and overpowering his enemies.
From what I could gather, it would seem that it would connect to myths and stories about the gods and goddesses of the Greek and Roman times. It would also seem like the history of the tales of great heroes.
I noticed that in many of the art pieces that Odysseus is pictured on the left which means mortal rather then divine. On most of the pieces there is some kind of design like stripes or spirals. Some even have heart designs on them. This makes me think that the art was meant to be visual pleasing and also the designs are supposed to highlight the importance of the people in the art.
The one that shows Odysseus and Circe represents how Odysseus is talking to Circe about why his men were turned into pigs. The pigs are on the Moral side, showing how the men are worthless as pigs. Since the men are naked is shows how vulnerable the men are. Odysseus is grabbing Circe who is on the divine side, in order to save his men.
I notice that the artists' message about Athena was beauty, her dress is long and beautiful, she is wearing head pieces and other forms of jewelry, and her dress has different designs along it. The artwork shows a good visual and is a good connection to have to the book, instead of having to imagine how Athena looked you can view this art and get a good idea of her. Athena is standing tall, she looks brave, heroic, and strong. She was the god of wisdom, this piece is a good visual of that.
One of the things I noticed is how in almost every picture Odysseus is standing up and maybe portraying that he is better than all of his men or anyone in general. He is holding some sort of pole showing that he has power. Also these different art pieces that I look at all have different form of creatures like eagles and snakes and other types of birds. I think they all mean something different. Since this art is filled with so many different types of weapons it shows how the scene is dangerous and has tension. In conclusion the art shows more of Odysseus's powerful side rather than the weak side.
After looking at the pictures about the Odyssey, it gives off the impression that Odysseus deserves the best because he is godlike in some ways. There are some pictures of Odysseus looking to the right indicating that he wants to be more divine. There are also some pieces with gods looking at him like he doesn't deserve to be considered as one of them. Also in one piece, Penelope is looking down and in a way looking for the Mortal side of her husband while he is still away. This art for the most part shows how Odysseus needs/wants to be represented on the divine side while others might not see him as such.
In one of the paintings it shows the nanny washing Odysseus's feet which is made to look like he is towering over her like he is divine or like a god. He also is in a pose which looks like a heroic pose which suggested how everyone thought he was a hero when he returned. Its trying to show how when Odysseus returned he was praised for actually surviving and coming back through he difficult Journey.
vase art is very unique in its own way it is marked first with a stylus to give it texture ad then they mark it with paint to give it shade
In the art The death of the suitors Odysseus is attacking the suitors. The suitor on the right is holding out his hand asking Odysseus to stop while The suitor on the left is on his knees crying out from pain of being shot with an arrow.
On most of the things Odysseus seems to be in the middle, or trending towards the right. This is interesting because the painter is saying that Odysseus is neither god nor man. In the ones where he is fighting Circe, Odysseus is in the middle, border lining on god and man, while his crew member is on the left, and with the god Circe on the right.
These art pieces portray Odysseus as a man who is borderline godlike or, "divine. They show him on vases where he faces to the right towards the divine gods. They are shown to have higher powers and stand taller over the humans with less power that look up to them. The vases show each god as a powerful bieng.
The message can be Odysseys as an old man talking to Penelope like in the book.
The symbols I see are Penelope and Odysseys holding sticks
While observing the following vase art, Odyssey In Art and Odyssey In Art Part 2, I noticed that there are many different moods to each vase. Some vases you can tell that the people are being nice and supportive, while others are fighting and angry. I think that the artist captures many different gods and the diversity between them. Some gods are helpful while other are intimidating. Another thing that is represented in the vase art is social status. While looking at the art I could easily tell who was a god and who was treating and supporting the god. I could also notice that different physical impression that the gods had. While the women were viewed more as gentle and helpful then men were viewed as strong and intimidating. There are many things that I noticed between each vase and each artist.
I think an important part of the symbolism on these vases might be in what the characters in them are holding objects which must mean something. The positions that they are standing in also give away emotion in the story.
There is this one painting that is based on the attack on Odysseus's ship and in the picture it shows multiple ships. The picture looks like it has been worn out and is pretty cloudy. It also shows some Laestrygonian giants throwing down some big rocks down onto the other ships and some other people bringing a boat onto shore.
In the first vase with Penelope and Odysseus, he is on the right looking left at Penelope who is sitting and looking down and left in mourning. In the vase after that, there is Penelope at her loom, sitting and looking to the left and down in sorrow with her legs crossed once again. Then the vase with Odysseus and Calypso, Calypso is giving Odysseus a box while he on the right, the divine direction, even though she is the goddess. Also, the one with Odysseus and Athena, Athena is on the right showing she is a goddess, and Odysseus is on the left below her in service, showing Odysseus serves Athena while she is protecting him from Nausicaa.
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