Friday, November 22, 2019
Counseling And The Use Of "The Odyssey?"
After listening to the Psychiatrist Counsels Vets With Odyssey Audio, what are you thinking about the The Odyssey?
Please specify your thoughts using a dynamic topic sentence and
supporting evidence. After listening to the audio clip, please respond during class.Blog response due by Fri., Dec. 13th.
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In the clip they talk about how they think the war has gone on for too long and are presenting it in a way we have never seen before. Odysseus had to fight in the battle and ship all the way back home and is shown in the short film where it’s represented differently. Oddyseus men said that after the town was destroyed they should give them a sheep has their gift. All the Greek Gods were shown sitting in the castle kind of in a way I never really imagined.
They make fun of a lot of the obstacles that Odysseus encounters they also skipped out on a lot of the story.
The Odyssey having an impact on veterans doesn't surprise me. Tales of a heroic warrior braving loss and danger to come out successfully would definitely be powerful to men and women with similar stories.
The short podcast clip from NPR made me think about the trauma Odysseus should've endured while on his 20-year odyssey. However, Odysseus doesn't really face the struggles of his battles after the journey is over, which makes me think that Odysseus either did not struggle a lot or he isn't really portrayed realistically. However, the second podcast clips makes mention that Odysseus struggles with the thought that the rich civilians of Greece will never understand the struggles he goes through. To me, this is almost a metaphor for PTSD, something mentioned in the first clip. So even if he isn't realistically portrayed in a sense of struggle, that doesn't mean he doesn't struggle.
In order to help soldiers deal with guilt and loss, psychiatrists read The Odyssey to them. These soldiers are consoled by the idea that they are a part of a team, as well as something larger than that; meaning that the soldiers have a connection to the ancient Greeks and their trials and tribulations. Homer depicts Odysseus as having inner turmoil about all of his guilt and PTSD. Odysseus has no idea how to relieve his pain, except by relating his stories to others. This is what the psychiatrists are doing to the veterans: helping them relieve their trauma without having conventionally known "therapy"- instead, being read a poem that illustrates a lot of the same hardships that the veterans went through.
Both veterans and Odysseus experience similar events in relation to the emotional effect of their experiences. This book can be a point of connection that can result in a feeling of comfort for veterans when attempting to recover from the pain caused by war. The bravery of Odysseus can be compared to the bravery of soldiers.
In the podcast clip they talk about military leaders listening to the Odyssey insight as therapy.
While the military leaders listen to the therapist as he responds with ideas from the Odyssey, they use it for relating Odysseus' war experience to theres and improving their lives. It makes me think about Odysseus because he's much like a war veteran with his response to many things after Troy.
The Odyssey seems to be relatable among soldiers, as they are a part of a long historical context, and the realism of the hardships in Odysseus is related to. There are many things that soldiers can relate to in this story such as the betrayal of leaders and the loss of people you care about in combat. There seems to be a deeper part of this story, such as the connection of witnessing war in modern-day and the book.
In the podcast "Psychiatrist Counsels vets with Odyssey Audio," he speaks about how veterans can relate to how the Odyssey is written and the content inside the book. The were saying how after this guy suffered from a stroke and he read the Odyssey and could really relate to it and really enjoyed it. One of the big questions that they thought was great was when Odysseus was asking how can these civilians relate to what he has gone through, he just doesn't understand it. But the podcast defiantly wasn't that exciting.
This clip talks about the odyssey and how the story was told t some of the combat veterans When they talk about how the soldiers talk like they did even back in these days about combat. They talk about how Odysseus heard a poet speak and it makes him weep but no one was willing to listen to why he was weeping. It is kind od the same now, Veterans have a hard time talking about stuff with normal civilians like Odysseus did because they don't know what he does and they cant relate.
This audio talks about the story the Odyssey as if it is saying Odysseus is almost weak and emotional. They talk about one of the sections where Odysseus is sitting with the king and he begins to weep because of the sound of the music. They also talk about how Odysseus is almost a veteran and lives to tell the stories of his adventures.
After listening to the podcast makes me realize how the Odyssey has effected many lives especially of soldiers who are embarking on a journey themselves which inspired. Reading about the hope in the Odyssey helps veterans during and after the war. It also helps soldiers feel connected especially since a veteran wrote the book. Reading about the Odyssey helps more soldiers especially those with PTSD for they can't certain sounds.
The Odyssey has affected many people across the globe and through the years in many situations. In the podcast linked, the speaker notes how many of the soldiers echo each other, or sound similar, in their pains and guilts. Soldiers have a hard time relating to a lot of people because the horrors of war are unimaginable to those who haven’t lived through it, therefore they struggle understanding non veterans. These soldiers who listened to the odyssey were able to relate to Odysseus’ struggles because the horrors haven’t wavered no matter the time span
The shrink was recovering from a stroke when he started to read to book and started telling the patients the stories. He talked about what causes pain. He doesn't like to use the term post traumatic stress disorder. I think the patients can relate to the people in the odyssey bc the veterans were in war like the characters in the odyssey. . Homer says in the odyssey "how can they understand what I'm going through". If somebody coming back from the war encounters someone and says why are you weeping, the person started to speak but the civilian interrupted and said it was just about oil. That's like a book in the odyssey. Personally I have a bit of a hard time understanding why this would work or help but it's pretty cool that the shrink figured that out. I guess the veterans can relate to odddisuous and the book because they both had similar struggles.
In this clip, the veteran therapist tells tales of Odysseus and how he had lots of od adventure and how they do too. he relates all of their efforts to Odysseus.
I am thinking that the Vietnam Veterans really could relate to the stories by Homer which made them feel more apart of a larger community despite their past in the highly stressful war. The stories allow them to know that others are in the same struggles that they are. During the war civilians could not understands he American soldier's intent and that was the main connection to the book. Evidence to support includes the gods telling everyone what to do like when the government was telling the soldiers what to do.
They poke fun at the challenges and tasks that Odysseus encounters and turns them into a funny podcast. They talk about PTSD stress disorder and how it relates to the Odyssey.
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